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A timely comparison Haley! I have been thinking about parenting and forming children a lot also since the Shiny Happy People documentary released, which I also watched (acknowledging shortcomings and biases of any documentary).

I suppose the first change in parenting comes from looking at ourselves. So much of what we hold firm can be driven by fear, pride or misplaced desire. It’s not bad to want safety, morality and good futures for our children- but at the expense of what? They may be virtuous and happy being poorer, more adventurous or in a marriage different than we expected. Slowing down to consider the unique person that is the child, their strengths and flaws, requires presence, adaptability and hope. We realize we cannot turn away but are needed more and more- more time, deeper intention, more help- - sacrifice! We realize we are small, need prayer and grace, and then each season choose how to form them and with what resources.

I guess one parallel from SHP and Mansfield Park would be we think that one certain ‘mold’ will form the child, each child, to be who we want them to be. We can plug that in and plot that course and then check out.

It’s worked for someone else, it’s worked for the generations before us, its the way things are always or ‘should’ be done, it’s worked for this subset of people. Again, it’s good to have a vision, but adaptability is required according to one’s circumstances. The mold may work for one of our children, and not another. The mold may work for one family, but not ours. Perhaps we have a child with a unique struggle- could be willful or innate. Or a wife who is not present, or meddling family members- we can’t change others much!

One thing I note about both Mansfield Park and SHP is that the families in raising their children chose ignorance, which is frightening. They ignored their true circumstances and what change that would necessitate, and decided that was too much trouble, too embarrassing, too wild to deviate from their pre-decided ‘norm’.

I would argue this is in opposition to Catholic values (I’m Catholic so think this way, we can say Christian too 🙃) or what they should be. Choosing to turn away from the reality of your situation and trusting that what has always been done, the method of family living you have been told will save you, will make everything all right. And then doubling down in that trajectory without ever changing course even a little.

I believe Catholic values tell us: let’s live in reality! Here is the world before you- let’s look at it as it stands. Let’s not hide from it- or hide from ourselves. There is good, and there is evil. Here they are - see them, look at them, acknowledge them. And knowing these things- let us educate! Ponder. Receive grace for surely we need it. Go to confession! See the expanse of people on our community, in all spectrums! Show grace. Be little and humble ourselves.

And then let’s still aim to choose for ourselves, and influence our children to choose, the good and the virtuous above all else, no matter where we are.

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Mary Rose Step's avatar

How did Edmond turn out so well?

Yes, he's got a major blind spot where Mary is concerned, but he's got excellent moral principles and lives virtuously. How did he pick that up when his three siblings failed?

My best guess is that when he was away at school he must have had a truly inspirational teacher. Maybe in his theology classes. Julia and Maria had a governess at home and had no break from Sir Thomas's authority or Aunt Norris indulgence. Tom was the heir and would have had more people sucking up and no reason to work. So maybe Edmond as the second son intended for the church had an openness to his vocation that left him more open to education outside the home.

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