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Kathleen Basi's avatar

You know, what I thought of most clearly while reading this reflection was of one particular extended family member who is annoying in similar ways to Miss Bates... with the added charm of anxiety around it, which makes this person kind of a pill to be around. And yet, like Miss Bates, this person is unfathomably generous. We all sort of have that dismissive, derisive way of talking about this person, even if not face to face. So this was quite the personal challenge. Being annoying is not a sin, indeed.

I've always thought Miss Bates was difficult, because she really is SO ANNOYING. And yet the qualities you flagged--her generosity and gratitude! That is heroism, in a person who has had so little in the way of privilege in her life. Maybe we find her annoying because she pricks our conscience.

Or maybe she's just clueless. But if so, she's clueless in the way of "bring the little children to me."

None of that has a thing to do with your question. Of course, it's appropriate for Mr. Knightley--her only clear-eyed friend--to challenge her. And he does it in the Gospel way: tell your friend in private. He doesn't humiliate her in public "so she'll know how it feels." He follows the Gospel. And it's wonderful that it works. That hardly ever works in modern life, does it? (Hello Facebook arguments.) I guess the takeaway is that challenging someone is more likely to work when there is a relationship of love and care already established.

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Louise (the mother)'s avatar

I remember so clearly seeing this scene in the theater when the Paltrow version came out. I had not read the book, and I suspect most of the audience had not either. At that time (and now) TV and movies was filled with gotcha comedy lines, where mean remarks were always laughed at. But, this scene, when Emma makes her remark, left the audience in stunned silence. Everyone felt for Miss Bates! And when Knightly corrects Emma, we all felt for her, though I think we all felt the justice of his words. Now having read all of Jane Austen (that movie led me down the path quite quickly!) I can see the great value of Knightly’s friendship and love for Emma in that one scene. The young adults in our house have all seen and loved that courageous moment of Knightly’s. True friendship!

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